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« Reply #165 on: October 12, 2009, 07:44:58 PM »

darwin's theory of evolution does not disprove God.

I'm so sorry to break this to you but, that's definitely a false statement. Apparently, what evolution teaches actually cancels out the Bible. Evolution says that we have evolved from single celled beings, whereas, the Bible says we have been formed by God, and He breathed the breath of life into us. Those are two different things.

i'm sorry you didn't get me. I said 'does not disprove GOD' not the Bible...

and, if you want to take the Bible literally, that's up to you. although even Jesus spoke in parables.
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« Reply #166 on: October 20, 2009, 04:22:58 PM »

GOD? SUS. SCIENCE IS INTERESTING.
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« Reply #167 on: October 20, 2009, 05:02:30 PM »

in a way, science validates God or the existence of a higher being. Science is a systematized body of knowledge meaning it doesn't believe in chances... there are a million scenarios where the existence of the Earth is not possible and another million scenarios where life is not possible, million more situations where in consciousness is impossible... yet here we are on Earth, with life, with consciousness, asking these questions...

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« Reply #168 on: February 01, 2010, 10:42:17 AM »

theories.. some proven... most of are not...
do science really contradicts with religion...

or is it the proven theories in science that was the explanation of the mysteries of the religion?
could it be possible that a theory cannot be proven unless it agrees with what the religion says?

just like the old belief that the earth was flat..
even though the religion already said it was round...

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« Reply #169 on: March 26, 2010, 08:39:53 AM »

I don't believe on the theory of evolution..

papayag ba kayong galing kayo sa unggoy?chimpanzee?mga kalahi ni kuya mr. yoso.hehe..peace lang kuya..siyempre!!hindi!!

yung gumawa ng teoryang iyan is not a believer of God..
but I believe that we came from the image of Dod..
we are the sons of adam and daughters of eve..
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« Reply #170 on: April 07, 2010, 09:29:04 PM »

maaring nag evolve ang mga tao mula sa isang species na hawig ng mga apes..hindi ibig sabihin kahawig eh kamag anak mo na hindi ibig sabihin parehas ng apelyido eh kalahi nyo na..di natin pwedeng itanggi na marami pagkakaparehas ang apes at human species pero di rin pwede sabihin nagmula tayo sa kanila kasi hanggang ngaun ung mga apes eh apes parin..kung sakaling nagmula nga tayo sa mga unggoy may kung anong bagay ang naganap o nangyari noon na dahilan ng pagkaka evolve na panibagong specimen...kung pagbabatayan natin ang bibliya mas madaling isipin na nagmula tayo sa diyos o ginawa tayo ng diyos wala nang kaso ganun kasimple nalang..pero kung hahalukayin natin ng malalim maraming tanong ang lilitaw..bakit at paano?saan at anong dahilan?ang science ang nag eexplaine ng halos lahat ng posibleng pwedeng naging sanhi halos lahat may mga bagay parin na hindi kayang patunayan ng science at dun ibinabatay nalang sa bibliya o religion..di masamang maniwala sa kahit anong gusto mong paniwalaan.. malalaman at malalaman rin natin kung saan nga tayo nagsimula...baka sa 2012 haha..di kaya nilikha tayo ng mga aliens?
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« Reply #171 on: April 08, 2010, 03:30:01 AM »

yung gumawa ng teoryang iyan is not a believer of God..
Oh my God. Magbasa kasi muna. Magbackread o magresearch bago mag-post. Hindi ito Free for All... thread ng Base Product. Charles Darwin, sumalangit nawa ang iyong kaluluwa.


Anyway, matagal na 'tong topic na'to. At malakas ang kutob ko, na by this time, alam na natin na hindi naman talaga tayo nanggaling sa unggoy. O kahit pa sabihing "kaanak," hindi pa rin. Dahil napatunayan na ng mga eksperto na ang pinakamalapit nating kaanak ay ang mga chimpanzee. Hindi monkey. (Please consult your table of taxonomic classification. Thank you.)

Pero sa usapin ng teorya ng ebolusyon, eto lang sa akin. Open ako. Hindi ako magbibitiw ng salita at agad sasabihing naniniwala ako rito dahil ayoko maging ipokrito. Kasi hindi ko pa nababasa maski ang Origin of the Species. Shocked Embarrassed
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« Reply #172 on: April 23, 2010, 05:46:26 PM »

well, charles darwin did deny his theory before he died. i think from the fact that it is just a theory, we really cant say if its real or not. i just dont understand why most schools teach evolution but not creation. if you compare them they are both unproven. and dont get me wrong, i am a christian and i believe we were created on the sixth day, but evolution and creation are really JUST theories. you decide what you will believe.

also, darwin made this theory before robert hooke discovered the cells and before frederick miescher discovered the dna. with the discoveries we have in the present, we can even theorize a lot about where we really started. and i even do believe that his theory is too shallow to be proven. it has a lot of missing links that he should have explained as well.
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« Reply #173 on: April 24, 2010, 01:28:27 PM »

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well darwin should be sorry...

he died before you live... he wasn't given a chance to explain... to you...

it's a theory... no discovery of facts started out as facts...
it all originated in theory...
it just so happened that he died before the theory became a discovery to became a fact...

but don't get me wrong i'm not saying that i am considering darwins' theory as a fact already... it just that it is possible..
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« Reply #174 on: April 26, 2010, 12:05:06 AM »

^^^yeah, it seems possible; so is the creation story and all other theories. but i wonder why havent we evolved from being homo sapiens to, i dont know, mutants? hahahahah. dont you think its been a long time already when we "evolved" into being a homo sapien? wala man lang tayong naramdamang kakaiba maliban sa diarrhea. hahaha.
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« Reply #175 on: April 26, 2010, 02:31:03 AM »

hindi ako naniniwala sa ebolusyon ^^

pwede may pagkakahawig sa disenyo ng mga nilalang...

parang ballpen, o mga sasakyan... at ihahanay sila ayon sa brand...
pero hindi sila nanggaling sa isa't isa... ginawa sila na may pagbabago...

sa tingin nyo ba may "missing link talaga?"
bakit halos lahat naman ata ng missing link ay nawala?
at bakit yung mga nilalalang na nauna at sumunod sa sinasabing "missing link"
eh nakita pa ang mga fossil? bakit "hindi makita-kita yang "missing link" na yan kung meron man ^^


tungkol dun sa 7 araw na paglikha...

hindi ba't ilang buwan lang para sa tao eh taon na sa mga aso?

siguro ganun din yung million, billion o trillion years para sa tao

na isang araw lang siguro sa Diyos ^^

parang ganito?
alamin mo yung taon na inilagi ng pinakamatandang tao sa mundo
at ikumpara mo sa habangbuhay... Cheesy

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« Reply #176 on: April 26, 2010, 08:47:36 AM »

^^^yeah, it seems possible; so is the creation story and all other theories. but i wonder why havent we evolved from being homo sapiens to, i dont know, mutants? hahahahah. dont you think its been a long time already when we "evolved" into being a homo sapien? wala man lang tayong naramdamang kakaiba maliban sa diarrhea. hahaha.

malaki po ang diperensya ng ebolusyon sa transpormasyon...


evolution and transformation are two different things don't confuse yourself...

regarding the time table... do you really accept the B.C. or A.D. graph?
wala pa namang kalendaryo nang magsimula ang mundo paanong 'long time' na... kung walang basis...
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« Reply #177 on: April 26, 2010, 10:49:11 PM »

i know the difference between evolution and transformation as clear as the crystal. ang sa akin lang, evolution happens slowly, as how darwin explains it. and yung homo erectus ay na.eestimate to have lived 1.8 to 1.3 million years ago. so expected na were on our way and we should have shown difference na. at tama ka, wala ngang precise time na na.set sa "pag.evolve" natin. pero,siguro narinig mo na din yung tinatawag nilang carbon-dating kung saan na.eestimate nila ang time of existence ng fossil through the amount of carbon na nilalaman nito. ito yung binabasehan natin ngayon on talking about the span of time at dyan nila na.estimate yung 1.8 to 1.3 million years na pag.exist ng mga homo erectus.

kahit estimated lang yung years, malaki parin ang mga nalakbay ng mga homo sapiens, obviously. until now, wala parin signs of evolution sa atin. and if youll ask me paano natin nalaman na ang mukha natin ay pareho parin sa mga sinaunang tao, ang isasagot ko dyan ay dahil sa fossils. and sa path na ating pinagdaanan, may mga paintings and sculptings na pwede gawing reference kung may evolution ngang nangyari.pero, wala eh. at isa lang yan sa mga missing links ng theory ni darwin. marami pa, actually. Smiley

references na ginamit:
the life and works of charles darwin(book)
10 myths about evolution(book)
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« Reply #178 on: April 27, 2010, 01:20:29 PM »

^^^
malaki ang kaibahan din ng 'estimation' at computation... malamang sa mag-arrive ka sa magkaibang product... ito yung ginagamit sa carbon dating... ESTIMATION... hindi eksakto...

malaki ang naitulong ng mga nahukay at natuklasang 'fossils' sa paghahanap ng sagot... sabi mo nga ito yung naging basehan...

kaya lang... may isa pang basehan na malaki ang epekto sa basehan na 'fossil'...
DECOMPOSITION...

hindi kasi tayo makakasigurado na ang mga nakuha ngang fossil e ang mga naunang tao... papaano kung may nauna pa sa kanila? at nadecompose na?

again hindi ko sinasabing tama ang theory ni darwin kasi theory nga siya...

pero halos lahat ng research ng pinagsimulan e pilit bumabalik sa napagaralan niya tungkol sa ebolusyon...
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« Reply #179 on: April 27, 2010, 10:32:43 PM »

^^^
malaki ang kaibahan din ng 'estimation' at computation... malamang sa mag-arrive ka sa magkaibang product... ito yung ginagamit sa carbon dating... ESTIMATION... hindi eksakto...



yan nga ang sinasabi ko Smiley  estimated lang lahat ng numerical factors na ating binabasehan. at kagaya nga ng previous post ko, ang estimation na yan ay nakakatulong parin para sabihin natin na matagal na tayo sa mundong ito.


malaki ang naitulong ng mga nahukay at natuklasang 'fossils' sa paghahanap ng sagot... sabi mo nga ito yung naging basehan...

kaya lang... may isa pang basehan na malaki ang epekto sa basehan na 'fossil'...
DECOMPOSITION...

hindi kasi tayo makakasigurado na ang mga nakuha ngang fossil e ang mga naunang tao... papaano kung may nauna pa sa kanila? at nadecompose na?


sabihin nga nating may ibang fossil before yung homo sapiens at after nung homo erectus. na.ii.susupport ba nito ang theory ni darwin? hindi. kasi kung lalagyan natin ng isa pang organism sa pagitan ng sapiens at erectus, mag.ooverlap* ang time of existence ng tatlong organism na mag.cocontradict sa theory ni darwin. lalabas na ang isa pang organism ay nabuhay on the later part of the erectus' existence and on the beginning of the sapiens. so, hindi talaga ito evolution kundi isa lang mere classification (and when i say classification i mean grupo lang talaga na may similar traits pero talagang magkaiba) lang.

*given na hindi liliit sa half a million ang span ng evolution ng mga hayop(specifically tao) as darwin said on his book


again hindi ko sinasabing tama ang theory ni darwin kasi theory nga siya...

pero halos lahat ng research ng pinagsimulan e pilit bumabalik sa napagaralan niya tungkol sa ebolusyon...

at oo, hindi ko rin sinasabing totally wrong yung theory nya, kagaya ng pag.sasabi mo na ito ay hindi rin totally tama. yun din kasi ang problema ng mga researchers eh, most of them narrow down their discoveries to darwin's theory. kung iisipin mo, mas malaki pa dyan ang nadidiscover nila.

hindi din naman kasalanan ng researchers at ni darwin yan. kasi nung panahon din ni galileo galilei, nag.hypothesize sya na ang mundo ay ang sentro ng lahat ng heavenly bodies dahil sa nakita niya sa kanyang telescope. at dahil dito, ang mga tao nuon ay binase lahat ng atmospheric discoveries sa sinabi ni galilei until na disproven yung theory ni galilei nang makita ng isang astrologer(nakalimutan ko yung pangalan ng taong yun Cheesy) na umiikot tayo sa sun. tlagang inevitable occurences happen. Smiley
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